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Knotical

What is all the hubub, bub?

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For those that know me I have a very specific approach when it comes to the end times.  Prepare your heart should the end happen today, but prepare your life should it not occur until after you are dead and gone.

 

With that in mind, what is truly the point of having more than a cursory understanding of the end times?  I never get into discussions about pre/post trib stuff.  I never get into discussions about the rapture itself either.  Part of my attitude toward stems from seeing people I grew up around, or have been influence by in one degree or another, make decisions that end up detremental to themselves and people around them.  In one such case an individual quit their job and ended up losing their house and ultimately had to get a new job and move into a rental, all because they believed the end was imminent.

 

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4 minutes ago, Knotical said:

For those that know me I have a very specific approach when it comes to the end times.  Prepare your heart should the end happen today, but prepare your life should it not occur until after you are dead and gone.

 

With that in mind, what is truly the point of having more than a cursory understanding of the end times?  I never get into discussions about pre/post trib stuff.  I never get into discussions about the rapture itself either.  Part of my attitude toward stems from seeing people I grew up around, or have been influence by in one degree or another, make decisions that end up detremental to themselves and people around them.  In one such case an individual quit their job and ended up losing their house and ultimately had to get a new job and move into a rental, all because they believed the end was imminent.

 

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Why would anyone quit their job and or sell or give away their home because they believed the end was nigh? Really think about that for a moment. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, William said:

Why would anyone quit their job and or sell or give away their home because they believed the end was nigh? Really think about that for a moment. 

 

 

Oh, I have.  And the only explanation I can come to is they weren't/aren't playing with a full deck.  But there are people who overly obsess about the end times.  And by that I mean spend more time than they should (in my opinion) on the subject.

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27 minutes ago, Knotical said:

Oh, I have.  And the only explanation I can come to is they weren't/aren't playing with a full deck.  But there are people who overly obsess about the end times.  And by that I mean spend more time than they should (in my opinion) on the subject.

I think someone exploited an other's weakness. That is, unrighteousness. I acknowledge what you say but also think someone thinks God takes bribes. What good is my house or money to someone left here behind, that is, being consistent with certain "rapture theology"? 

 

2 Thessalonians says God causes a delusion..... in other words God raises up false prophets and teachers for damning some [followers] in their unrighteousness. It is one of the Scriptures that's ignored but one that should cause not only an examination about who we follow as a flock lead by Pastors and Teachers and a lot of self examination IMO. 

 

Ya, when people can't shut up about the News paper and Revelation I tend to distance myself from them. 

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4 hours ago, Knotical said:

 I never get into discussions about pre/post trib stuff.  I never get into discussions about the rapture itself either.

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Same here.

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Spouting fear ( hub bub ) is another way to fill the offering baskets. 

 

Warm summer night, little church in a small Sacramento valley town (pop about 350) had the windows and door open. Just a block off the hiway.. I can't remember who was preaching, but he was preaching hell fire and end times... In the middle of a long spiel about  the Lord coming with a shout... You guess it a loud crash of the hiway car wreck.. You never saw so many Holy Ghost filled folks jumping around .. 🙂

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